SFI SYSTEM(w/ Canister Pump Module), Diagnostic DTC:P0505

DTC Code DTC Name
P0505 Idle Control System

DESCRIPTION

The idle speed is controlled by the electronic throttle control system. The electronic throttle control system is comprised of: 1) one valve type throttle body with motor assembly; 2) the throttle actuator, which operates the throttle valve; 3) the throttle position sensor, which detects the opening angle of the throttle valve; 4) the accelerator pedal position sensor, which detects the accelerator pedal position; 5) the ECM, which controls the electronic throttle control system. Based on the target idle speed, the ECM controls the throttle actuator to provide the proper throttle valve opening angle.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area MIL Memory
P0505 Idle Control System Idle speed continues to vary greatly from target idle speed (2 trip detection logic).

  • Electronic throttle control system

  • Intake system

  • PCV hose connection

  • EGR valve assembly

  • ECM

 Comes on DTC stored

MONITOR DESCRIPTION

The ECM monitors the idle speed and idling air flow volume to conduct idle speed control. The ECM determines that the idle speed control system is malfunctioning if either of the following conditions is met:


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MONITOR STRATEGY

Required Sensors/Components (Main) Electronic throttle control system
Required Sensors/Components (Related)

Crankshaft position sensor

Engine coolant temperature sensor
Frequency of Operation Once per driving cycle

TYPICAL MALFUNCTION THRESHOLDS

Either of the following conditions are met 1 or 2
1. Both of the following conditions are met -
Engine speed - Target engine speed Less than -100 rpm, or higher than 150 rpm
IAC flow rate learned value 0.9 L/sec. or less, or 7.0 L/sec. or more for 5 seconds or more
2. Both of the following conditions are met A and B
A. Frequency that both of the following conditions are met 5 times or more
Engine speed - Target engine speed Less than -100 rpm, or higher than 150 rpm
Vehicle condition Stopped after vehicle was driven by 10 km/h (6.25 mph) or more
B. Either of the following conditions is met (a) or (b)
(a) Amount of change of IAC flow rate learning value +2.2 L/sec. or more, or -3.354 L/sec. or less
(b) IAC flow rate learning value 0.9 L/sec. or less, or 7.0 L/sec. or more

CONFIRMATION DRIVING PATTERN

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  1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

  2. Turn the power switch on (IG) and turn the GTS on.

  3. Clear the DTCs (even if no DTCs are stored, perform the clear DTC procedure).

  4. Turn the power switch off and wait for at least 30 seconds.

  5. Turn the power switch on (IG) and turn the GTS on [A].

  6. Put the engine in inspection mode (maintenance mode).

    Click here

  7. Start the engine and warm it up until the engine coolant temperature is 70°C (158°F) or higher with all the accessories switched off [B].

  8. Turn the power switch off and wait for at least 30 seconds.

  9. Disconnect the cable from the negative (-) auxiliary battery terminal.

  10. Reconnect the cable to the negative (-) auxiliary battery terminal.

  11. Turn the power switch on (IG) and turn the GTS on.

  12. Put the engine in inspection mode (maintenance mode).

    Click here

  13. Start the engine and rev the engine for 5 seconds with shift lever in P [C].

  14. Idle the engine for 5 minutes or more [D].

    Tech Tips

    In order to keep the idling stable, turn off the A/C and all other electric loads and do not perform any shift operations.

  15. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes [E].

  16. Read the pending DTCs.

    Tech Tips


    • If a pending DTC is output, the system is malfunctioning.

    • If a pending DTC is not output, perform the following procedure.

  17. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Utility / All Readiness.

  18. Input the DTC: P0505.

  19. Check the DTC judgment result.

    GTS Display Description
    NORMAL

    • DTC judgment completed

    • System normal
    ABNORMAL

    • DTC judgment completed

    • System abnormal
    INCOMPLETE

    • DTC judgment not completed

    • Perform driving pattern after confirming DTC enabling conditions
    N/A

    • Unable to perform DTC judgment

    • Number of DTCs which do not fulfill DTC preconditions has reached ECU memory limit

    Tech Tips


    • If the judgment result shows NORMAL, the system is normal.

    • If the judgment result shows ABNORMAL, the system has a malfunction.

    • If the judgment result shows INCOMPLETE or N/A, perform steps [F] through [I].

  20. With the engine running, accelerate the vehicle to 10 km/h (6.25 mph) or more [F].

    CAUTION:

    When performing the confirmation driving pattern, obey all speed limits and traffic laws.

    Tech Tips

    If the engine stops, further depress the accelerator pedal to restart the engine.

  21. Stop the vehicle and rev the engine for 5 seconds with shift lever in P [G].

  22. Idle the engine for 20 seconds or more [H].

  23. Repeat the steps [F] through [H] 10 times.

  24. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes [I].

  25. Read the pending DTCs.

    Tech Tips


    • If a pending DTC is output, the system is malfunctioning.

    • If a pending DTC is not output, perform the following procedure.

  26. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Utility / All Readiness.

  27. Input the DTC: P0505.

  28. Check the DTC judgment result.

    GTS Display Description
    NORMAL

    • DTC judgment completed

    • System normal
    ABNORMAL

    • DTC judgment completed

    • System abnormal
    INCOMPLETE

    • DTC judgment not completed

    • Perform driving pattern after confirming DTC enabling conditions
    N/A

    • Unable to perform DTC judgment

    • Number of DTCs which do not fulfill DTC preconditions has reached ECU memory limit

    Tech Tips


    • If the judgment result shows NORMAL, the system is normal.

    • If the judgment result shows ABNORMAL, the system has a malfunction.

CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

Note

After turning power switch off, waiting time may be required before disconnecting the cable from the negative (-) auxiliary battery terminal. Therefore, make sure to read the disconnecting the cable from the negative (-) auxiliary battery terminal notices before proceeding with work.

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Tech Tips


  • The following conditions may also cause DTC P0505 to be stored:


    1. The floor carpet overlapping slightly onto the accelerator pedal, causing the accelerator pedal to be slightly depressed and therefore the throttle valve position to be slightly open.

    2. The accelerator pedal being not fully released.

  • Refer to "Data List / Active Test" [Engine Speed, ISC Feedback Value and ISC Learning Value].

    Click here

  • Read freeze frame data using the GTS. The ECM records vehicle and driving condition information as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. When troubleshooting, freeze frame data can help determine if the vehicle was moving or stationary, if the engine was warmed up or not, if the air fuel ratio was lean or rich, and other data from the time the malfunction occurred.

PROCEDURE


  1. CHECK ANY OTHER DTCS OUTPUT (IN ADDITION TO DTC P0505)


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the power switch on (IG).

    3. Turn the GTS on.

    4. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes.

    5. Read the DTCs.


      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      DTC P0505 is output A
      DTC P0505 and other DTCs are output B

      Tech Tips

      If any DTCs other than P0505 are output, troubleshoot those DTCs first.


    B

    GO TO DTC CHART Click here

    A

  2. CHECK PCV HOSE CONNECTIONS


    1. Check the PCV hose connections.

      Click here

      OK
      PCV valve and hose are connected correctly and are not damaged.
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPAIR OR REPLACE PCV HOSE

    OK

  3. CHECK INTAKE SYSTEM


    1. Check the intake system for vacuum leaks.

      Click here

      OK
      No leaks from the intake system.

      Tech Tips

      Perform "Inspection After Repair" after repairing or replacing the intake system.

      Click here

      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPAIR OR REPLACE INTAKE SYSTEM

    OK

  4. PERFORM ACTIVE TEST USING GTS (CONTROL THE EGR STEP POSITION)


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the power switch on (IG).

    3. Turn the GTS on.

    4. Put the engine in inspection mode (maintenance mode).

      Click here


      Powertrain > Hybrid Control > Utility
      Tester Display
      Inspection Mode

    5. Start the engine and warm it up until the engine coolant temperature reaches 75°C (167°F) or higher.

      Tech Tips

      The A/C switch and all accessory switches should be off.

    6. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Active Test / Control the EGR Step Position / Primary / MAP and Throttle Idle Position.


      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Active Test
      Active Test Display
      Control the EGR Step Position
      Data List Display
      MAP
      Throttle Idle Position

    7. Confirm that the Throttle Idle Position is ON and check the MAP values in the Data List while performing the Active Test.

      Tech Tips


      • Do not leave the EGR valve open for 10 seconds or more during the Active Test.

      • Be sure to return the EGR valve to step 0 when the Active Test is completed.

      • Do not open the EGR valve 30 steps or more during the Active Test.

      OK
      MAP change in response to EGR step position when Throttle Idle Position is ON in Data List.
      Standard
      - EGR Step Position (Active Test)
      0 Steps 0 to 30 Steps

      MAP

      (Data List)

      		 (EGR valve is fully closed) MAP value is at least +10 kPa (75 mmHg) higher than when EGR valve is fully closed

      Tech Tips


      • While performing the Active Test, if the increase in the value of MAP is small, the EGR valve assembly may be a malfunctioning.

      • Even if the EGR valve assembly is malfunctioning, rough idling or an increase in the value of MAP may occur while performing the Active Test. However, the amount that the value of MAP increases will be smaller than normal.

      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    OK

    GO TO STEP 6 Click here

    NG

  5. INSPECT EGR VALVE ASSEMBLY


    1. Remove the EGR valve assembly.

      Click here

    2. Check if the EGR valve is stuck open.

      OK
      EGR valve is tightly closed.

      Tech Tips

      Perform "Inspection After Repair" after replacing the EGR valve assembly.

      Click here

      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPLACE EGR VALVE ASSEMBLY Click here

    OK

  6. INSPECT THROTTLE BODY WITH MOTOR ASSEMBLY (THROTTLE VALVE)


    1. Check the throttle body with motor assembly condition.

      OK
      Throttle valve is not contaminated with foreign matter and moves smoothly.

      Tech Tips

      Perform "Inspection After Repair" after replacing the throttle body with motor assembly.

      Click here

      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPLACE THROTTLE BODY WITH MOTOR ASSEMBLY Click here

    OK

  7. CONFIRM WHETHER DTC OUTPUT RECURS (DTC P0505)


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the power switch on (IG).

    3. Turn the GTS on.

    4. Clear the DTCs.

      Click here


      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Clear DTCs

    5. Turn the power switch off and wait for at least 30 seconds.

    6. Turn the power switch on (IG).

    7. Turn the GTS on.

    8. Drive the vehicle in accordance with the driving pattern described in the Confirmation Driving Pattern.

    9. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes.

    10. Read the pending DTCs.


      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      DTC P0505 is output A
      DTCs are not output B

    A

    REPLACE ECM Click here

    B

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