SFI SYSTEM(w/ EGR System), Diagnostic DTC:P1604

DTC Code DTC Name
P1604 Startability Malfunction

DESCRIPTION

If the engine does not start or it takes a long time for the engine to start, despite the ECM receiving the engine start request signal from the power management control ECU via CAN communication, this DTC will be stored.

Read freeze frame data using the GTS. The ECM records vehicle and driving condition information as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. When troubleshooting, freeze frame data can be helpful in determining whether the vehicle was running or stopped, whether the engine was warmed up or not, whether the air fuel ratio was lean or rich, as well as other data recorded at the time of a malfunction.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area MIL Memory
P1604 Startability Malfunction

Either of the following conditions is met (1 trip detection logic):


  • The engine speed is less than 500 rpm with the engine start signal on for a certain amount of time (refer to the illustration below)

  • After the engine starts (engine speed is 500 rpm or more), the engine speed drops to 200 rpm or less

- Does not come on DTC Stored
A01MTN1E09

CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

Tech Tips


  • In contrast to normal malfunction diagnosis for components, circuits and systems, DTC P1604 is used to determine the malfunctioning area from the problem symptoms and freeze frame data when the user mentions problems such as starting difficulty.

    As these DTCs can be stored as a result of certain user actions, even if these DTCs are output, if the customer makes no mention of problems, clear these DTCs without performing any troubleshooting and return the vehicle to the customer.

  • If any DTCs other than P1604 are output, troubleshoot those DTCs first.

  • Since DTC P1604 is different from other DTCs, the following procedure is shown as a reference.

  • Read freeze frame data using the GTS. Freeze frame data records engine conditions when a malfunction occurs. This information can be useful when troubleshooting.

  • When confirming the freeze frame data, be sure to check all 5 sets of freeze frame data.

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  • When confirming freeze frame data, if there are multiple items related to the cause of the malfunction, perform troubleshooting for all related items.

  • Try to start the vehicle under the conditions recorded in the freeze frame data which were present when the malfunction occurred. Confirm the data at this time and compare it with the freeze frame data.

  • If the malfunction does not reoccur, carefully check the vehicle conditions from when the malfunction occurred using freeze frame data.

  • When performing inspections, jiggle the relevant wire harnesses and connectors in an attempt to reproduce malfunctions that do not always occur.

  • If the same inspection or replacement procedure appears 2 times when performing an inspection procedure, it is not necessary to repeat the procedure the second time.

PROCEDURE


  1. CHECK ANY OTHER DTCS OUTPUT (IN ADDITION TO DTC P1604)


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the power switch on (IG).

    3. Turn the GTS on.

    4. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes.

    5. Read the DTCs.

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      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      DTC P1604 is output A
      DTC P1604 and other DTCs are output B

      Tech Tips

      If any DTCs other than P1604 are output, troubleshoot those DTCs first.


    B
    A
  2. CHECK FREEZE FRAME DATA


    1. Turn the GTS on.

    2. Check the following freeze frame data to see the state of the auxiliary battery when the freeze frame data was recorded.

      Confirmation Item
      Battery Voltage
    3. Check the following freeze frame data to see if the engine was cranking when the freeze frame data was recorded.

      Confirmation Item
      Engine Speed
      Engine Speed (Starter Off)
    4. Check the following freeze frame data to check temperature data recorded when the engine did not start normally.

      Confirmation Item
      Coolant Temp
      Intake Air
      Engine Oil Temperature
      Ambient Temp for A/C
    5. Check the following freeze frame data to see the engine operating conditions recorded when the engine started.

      Confirmation Item
      MAF
      Throttle Position
      ISC Flow
      ISC Position
      MAP
      EGR Step Position
    6. Check the following freeze frame data to see before the engine did not start normally.

      Confirmation Item
      Run Dist of Previous Trip
      Previous Trip Intake Temp
      Previous Trip Eng Oil Temp
      Previous Trip Ambient Temp
    7. Use this information to perform a simulation test.

    8. Compare the "Normal Condition" information in the Data List table (reference values) with the freeze frame data listed above and with the simulation test results to determine the problem cause.

      Result
      Result Proceed to
      The problem cause can be determined A
      The problem cause cannot be determined B

    A
    B