STOP AND START SYSTEM, Diagnostic DTC:P0335

DTC Code DTC Name
P0335 Engine Speed Sensor Circuit (NE Circuit)

DESCRIPTION

The crank position sensor sends an engine speed signal (NE signal) to the ECM. The engine speed signal is then sent directly from the NEO terminal of the ECM to the engine stop and start ECU. Additionally, the ECM sends the engine speed to the engine stop and start ECU via CAN communication. The engine stop and start ECU compares the NE signal and engine speed received via CAN communication to check for errors in the NE signal.

If the NE signal is abnormal, the engine stop and start ECU will blink the stop and start cancel indicator light and stores DTC P0335.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area Warning Indicate Memory
P0335 Engine Speed Sensor Circuit (NE Circuit)

All of the following conditions are met for 10 seconds (2 trip detection logic):


  • Normal communication between the ECM and the engine stop and start ECU.

  • Engine speed (NE signal) is below 6000 rpm.

  • Difference between the NE signal that is sent directly from ECM and the engine speed that is sent via CAN is 200 rpm or higher.

Both of the following conditions are met for 2 seconds or more (1 trip detection logic):


  • Starter is operating.

  • No NE signal input.

  • Wire harness or connector

  • Crank position sensor

  • ECM

  • Engine stop and start ECU

 Blinks DTC stored

CONFIRMATION DRIVING PATTERN

Tech Tips

DTCs for the stop and start system are not cleared automatically even if the malfunction has been repaired. After repairing the malfunction, be sure to clear the DTCs.

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  1. CONFIRMATION AFTER TROUBLESHOOTING

    Tech Tips


    • If the cable is disconnected from the negative (-) battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited until refresh charge is completed. In this case, drive the vehicle approximately 5 to 40 minutes until refresh charge is completed and stop and start control operation is permitted.

    • Allow the engine to idle for 3 minutes after it is warmed up and check that the engine idle speed is within 50 rpm of the target idle speed.


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the ignition switch to ON and turn the GTS on.

    3. Clear the DTCs.

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      Powertrain > Stop and Start > Clear DTCs

    4. Start the engine and wait for at least 15 seconds.

    5. Check that DTCs are not output.

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      Powertrain > Stop and Start > Trouble Codes
      B0044REE07

  2. STOP AND START SYSTEM OPERATION CHECK

    Tech Tips

    If the cable is disconnected from the negative (-) battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited until refresh charge is completed. In this case, drive the vehicle approximately 5 to 40 minutes until refresh charge is completed and stop and start control operation is permitted.


    1. Start the engine and warm it up.

    2. Turn the air conditioning system off.

    3. Drive the vehicle at 7 km/h (4.3 mph) or more.

      CAUTION:

      When performing Confirmation Driving Pattern, obey all speed limits and traffic laws.

    4. Stop the vehicle, move the shift lever to neutral and release the clutch pedal. (for Manual Transaxle)

    5. Depress the brake pedal and stop the vehicle. (for CVT)

    6. Allow the engine to stop by stop and start control. (Keep the shift lever in D. (for CVT))

    7. Depress the clutch pedal and start the engine. (for Manual Transaxle)

    8. Release the brake pedal with the shift lever in D to start the engine. (for CVT)

WIRING DIAGRAM

B0044AVE05
for 1WW
*a Crank Position Sensor
*b Engine Stop and Star ECU
*c CAN Communication Line
B0044AVE06
for 1ND-TV w/ Glow Plug Controller
*a Crank Position Sensor
*b Engine Stop and Star ECU
*c CAN Communication Line
B0044BIE06
for 8NR-FTS
*a Crank Position Sensor
*b Engine Stop and Start ECU
*c CAN Communication Line

CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

Note


  • Before replacing the engine stop and start ECU, read the number of starter operations and write it into a new engine stop and start ECU.

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  • After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or air conditioning amplifier assembly, reset and perform learning of the air conditioning information in the engine stop and start ECU.

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  • After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or airbag sensor assembly, clear and calibrate the deceleration sensor zero point in the engine stop and start ECU.

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Tech Tips

Using the GTS, read the freeze frame data before troubleshooting. System condition information is recorded as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. This information can be useful when troubleshooting.

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PROCEDURE


  1. CHECK DTC OUTPUT (SFI OR ECD SYSTEM)


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the ignition switch to ON.

    3. Turn the GTS on.

    4. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes.

    5. Read the DTCs


      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      No ECD system or SFI system DTCs are output A
      Either ECD system or SFI system crank position sensor circuit DTC is output B

    B

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 1ND-TV w/ Glow Plug Controller: Click here
    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 1WW: Click here
    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 8NR-FTS: Click here

    A

  2. READ VALUE USING GTS (Engine Spd (NE Signal))


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3

    2. Start the engine.

    3. Turn the tester on.

    4. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Stop and Start / Data List / Engine Spd (NE Signal).

    5. According to the display on the GTS, read the Data List.


      Powertrain > Stop and Start > Data List
      Tester Display
      Engine Spd (NE Signal)
      OK
      Engine speed signal is input (the speeds displayed on the tachometer and the GTS are almost the same).
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    OK

    USE SIMULATION METHOD TO CHECK Click here

    NG

  3. CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - ECM)


    1. Turn the ignition switch to OFF

    2. Disconnect the A9 engine stop and start ECU connector.

    3. Disconnect the A173*1, A169*2 or A50*3 ECM connector.


      • *1: for 8NR-FTS

      • *2: for 1ND-TV (w/ Glow Plug Controller)

      • *3: for 1WW

    4. Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

      Standard Resistance
      for 8NR-FTS
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A173-30 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
      A9-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      A173-30 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      for 1ND-TV (w/ Glow Plug Controller)
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A169-6 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
      A9-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      A169-6 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      for 1WW
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A50-6 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
      A9-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      A50-6 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

    OK

  4. CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - BODY GROUND)


    1. Disconnect the A8 engine stop and start ECU connector.

    2. Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

      Standard Resistance
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A8-8 (GND) - Body ground Always Below 1 Ω
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

    OK

  5. CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE SIGNAL INPUT)


    1. Connect an oscilloscope to the A9-10 (NE) and A8-8 (GND) terminals of the engine stop and start ECU connector.

      B0042LKC12
      *a

      Component with harness connected

      (Engine Stop and Start ECU)

      		 - -

    2. Start the engine.

    3. B00430XE01

      Check the signal waveform according to the condition(s) in the table below.

      Item Condition
      Tester Connection A9-10 (NE) - A8-8 (GND)
      Tool Setting 5 V/DIV, 2 ms/DIV
      Condition Idling
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      Stuck at 0 to 1.5 V A
      Stuck at 8 to 14 V B

      Pulse generation

      (See waveform)

      		 C

    B

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 1ND-TV w/ Glow Plug Controller: Click here
    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 1WW: Click here
    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 8NR-FTS: Click here

    C

    REPLACE ENGINE STOP AND START ECU Click here

    A

  6. CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE TERMINAL VOLTAGE)


    1. Disconnect the A173*1, A169*2 or A50*3 ECM connector.


      • *1: for 8NR-FTS

      • *2: for 1ND-TV (w/ Glow Plug Controller)

      • *3: for 1WW

      B0042LKC12
      *a

      Component with harness connected

      (Engine Stop and Start ECU)

      		 - -

    2. Turn the ignition switch to ON.

    3. Measure the voltage according to the value(s) in the table below.

      Standard Voltage
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A8-8 (GND) Ignition switch ON 8 to 14 V
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

      Tech Tips

      DTCs may be stored during this inspection. Check for DTCs and clear them using the GTS.


    OK

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 1ND-TV w/ Glow Plug Controller: Click here
    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 1WW: Click here
    GO TO ECD SYSTEM OR EFI SYSTEM for 8NR-FTS: Click here

    NG

    REPLACE ENGINE STOP AND START ECU Click here