STOP AND START SYSTEM, Diagnostic DTC:P0335

DTC Code DTC Name
P0335 Engine Speed Sensor Circuit (NE Circuit)

DESCRIPTION

The crank position sensor sends an engine speed signal (NE signal) to the ECM. The engine speed signal is then sent directly from the NEO terminal of the ECM to the engine stop and start ECU.

In addition, the ECM sends the engine speed value to the engine stop and start ECU via CAN communication, and the engine stop and start ECU compares the NE signal and the engine speed to check for errors in the NE signal.

If any errors are detected, the engine stop and start ECU cancels stop and start control.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area Warning Indicate Memory
P0335 Engine Speed Sensor Circuit (NE Circuit)

All of the following conditions continue for 10 seconds (2 trip detection logic):


  • Normal communication between the ECM and the engine stop and start ECU.

  • Engine speed (NE signal) is below 6000 rpm.

  • Difference between the NE signal that is sent directly from ECM and the engine speed that is sent via CAN is 200 rpm or higher.

Both of the following conditions continue for 2 seconds or more (1 trip detection logic):


  • Starter is operating.

  • No NE signal input.

  • Wire harness or connector

  • Crank position sensor

  • ECM

  • Engine stop and start ECU

 Blinking DTC stored

CONFIRMATION DRIVING PATTERN

Tech Tips

DTCs for the stop and start system are not cleared even if the malfunction has been repaired. After repairing the malfunction, be sure to clear the DTCs.

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  1. CONFIRMATION AFTER TROUBLESHOOTING

    Tech Tips


    • When the cable is disconnected from the negative (-) battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited for a certain amount of time. After connecting the cable, drive the vehicle until stop and start control is permitted (approximately 15 to 40 minutes).

    • Allow the engine to idle for 3 minutes after the engine warms up and check that the engine speed is within 50 rpm of the target idle speed.


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the ignition switch to ON and turn the GTS on.

    3. Clear the DTCs.

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      Powertrain > Stop and Start > Clear DTCs

    4. Start the engine and wait for at least 15 seconds.

    5. Check that DTCs are not output.

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      Powertrain > Stop and Start > Trouble Codes
      A01T98IE07

  2. STOP AND START SYSTEM OPERATION CHECK

    Tech Tips

    When the cable is disconnected from the negative (-) battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited for a certain amount of time. After connecting the cable, drive the vehicle until stop and start control is permitted (approximately 15 to 40 minutes).


    1. Start the engine and warm it up.

    2. Turn the air conditioning system off.

    3. Drive the vehicle at 7 km/h (4.3 mph) or more.

      CAUTION:

      When performing the confirmation driving pattern, obey all speed limits and traffic laws.

    4. Stop the vehicle, move the shift lever to neutral and release the clutch pedal.

    5. Allow the engine to stop by stop and start control.

    6. Depress the clutch pedal and start the engine.

WIRING DIAGRAM

A01TC7RE01
for 1AD-FTV
*a Crank Position Sensor
*b Engine Stop and Star ECU
*c CAN Communication Line
A01TC7RE03
for 1ND-TV
*a Crank Position Sensor
*b Engine Stop and Star ECU
*c CAN Communication Line
A01TCCSE04
for 1NR-FE
*a Crank Position Sensor
*b Engine Stop and Start ECU
*c CAN Communication Line

CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

Note


  • Before replacing the engine stop and start ECU, read the number of starter operations and write it into a new engine stop and start ECU.

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  • After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or air conditioning amplifier assembly, reset and perform learning of the air conditioning information in the engine stop and start ECU.

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  • After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or airbag sensor assembly, perform deceleration sensor zero point clear and calibration.

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Tech Tips

Using the GTS, read the freeze frame data before troubleshooting. System condition information is recorded as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. This information can be useful when troubleshooting.

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PROCEDURE


  1. CHECK DTC OUTPUT (SFI OR ECD SYSTEM)


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3.

    2. Turn the ignition switch to ON.

    3. Turn the GTS on.

    4. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Trouble Codes.

    5. Read the DTCs


      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Powertrain > Engine and ECT > Trouble Codes
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      No ECD system or SFI system DTCs are output A
      ECD system DTC P0335 or P0339 is output (for 1AD-FTV) B
      ECD system DTC P0335 or P0339 is output (for 1ND-TV) C
      SFI system DTC P0335, P0336, P0337, P0338 or P0339 is output (for 1NR-FE) D

    B

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM Click here

    C

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM Click here

    D

    GO TO SFI SYSTEM Click here

    A

  2. READ VALUE USING GTS (Engine Spd (NE Signal))


    1. Connect the GTS to the DLC3

    2. Start the engine.

    3. Turn the tester on.

    4. Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Stop and Start / Data List / Engine Spd (NE Signal).


      Powertrain > Stop and Start > Data List
      Tester Display
      Engine Spd (NE Signal)

    5. Read the value displayed on the GTS screen.

      OK
      Engine speed signal is input (the speeds displayed on the tachometer and the GTS are almost the same).
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    OK

    USE SIMULATION METHOD TO CHECK Click here

    NG

  3. CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - ECM)


    1. Turn the ignition switch to OFF

    2. Disconnect the A9 engine stop and start ECU connector.

    3. Disconnect the A118*1, A101*2 or A50*3 ECM connector.


      • *1: for 1AD-FTV

      • *2: for 1ND-TV

      • *3: for 1NR-FE

    4. Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

      Standard Resistance
      for 1AD-FTV
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A118-60 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
      A9-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      A118-60 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      for 1ND-TV
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A101-79 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
      A9-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      A101-79 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      for 1NR-FE
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A50-30 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
      A9-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      A50-30 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

    OK

  4. CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - BODY GROUND)


    1. Disconnect the A8 engine stop and start ECU connector.

    2. Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

      Standard Resistance
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A8-8 (GND) - Body ground Always Below 1 Ω
      Result
      Proceed to
      OK
      NG

    NG

    REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

    OK

  5. CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE SIGNAL INPUT)


    1. Connect an oscilloscope to the A9-10 (NE) and A8-8 (GND) terminals of the engine stop and start ECU connector.

      A01TA8UC12
      *a

      Component with harness connected

      (Engine Stop and Start ECU)

      		 - -

    2. Start the engine.

    3. A01TDF5E01

      Check the signal waveform according to the condition(s) in the table below.

      Item Condition
      Tester Connection A9-10 (NE) - A8-8 (GND)
      Tool Setting 5 V/DIV, 2 ms/DIV
      Condition Idling
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      Stuck at 0 to 1.5 V A
      Stuck at 8 to 14 V (for 1AD-FTV) B
      Stuck at 8 to 14 V (for 1ND-TV) C
      Stuck at 8 to 14 V (for 1NR-FE) D

      Pulse generation

      (See waveform)

      		 E

    B

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM Click here

    C

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM Click here

    D

    GO TO SFI SYSTEM Click here

    E

    REPLACE ENGINE STOP AND START ECU Click here

    A

  6. CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE TERMINAL VOLTAGE)


    1. Disconnect the A118*1, A101*2 or A50*3 ECM connector.


      • *1: for 1AD-FTV

      • *2: for 1ND-TV

      • *3: for 1NR-FE

      A01TA8UC12
      *a

      Component with harness connected

      (Engine Stop and Start ECU)

      		 - -

    2. Turn the ignition switch to ON.

    3. Measure the voltage according to the value(s) in the table below.

      Standard Voltage
      Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
      A9-10 (NE) - A8-8 (GND) Ignition switch ON 8 to 14 V
      Result
      Result Proceed to
      OK (for 1AD-FTV) A
      OK (for 1ND-TV) B
      OK (for 1NR-FE) C
      NG D

      Tech Tips

      DTCs may be stored during this inspection. Check for DTCs and clear them using the GTS.


    A

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM Click here

    B

    GO TO ECD SYSTEM Click here

    C

    GO TO SFI SYSTEM Click here

    D

    REPLACE ENGINE STOP AND START ECU Click here